2. WELCOME BY THE
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ITALIAN,
REGIONAL GOUVERNMENT AND OFFICIALS
Welcome addresses were
given by:
· Mr. Germano
Savorani, Town Councillor, Vocational
Training Department – Province of
Ravenna,
· Mr. Giannantonis
Mingozzi, Sindaco (?) of Ravenna,
· Mrs. Paola
Monigi, General Secretary, Chamber of
Commerce on behalf of the Chairman,
Ravenna Chamber of Commerce Mr.
Giafranco Bessi,
· Mr. Franco Nanni,
Vice President Offshore Mediteriano
Conference (OMC),
· Honourable
Gabriele Albonetti, Qusator (?) of the
Italian House of Representatives,
· Mr. Renzo
Righini, President API.
A copy of some of the
addresses given has been attached to
these Minutes.
Crawford Logan, the EDTC
Chairman thanked everyone for the warm
welcome and the hospitality extended by
both representatives of the Italian
Government and Local Government
Representatives and organisation and
last but not least AISI for hosting the
2008 EDTC meeting. He expressed pleasure
with the excellent work being done in
Italy to bring training standards to an
even higher level adopting international
codes and practices thus hopefully
assisting in the future free movement of
labour within Europe.
3. APPOLOGIES
Apologies had been
received as stated above.
The
Chairman expressed a special apology on
behalf of Claus Mayer who had been
delayed during a project in central
China and could not obtain a re-entry
visa because of the Para-Olympics, if he
left to attend this meeting.
4.APPROVALS OF MINUTES
FROM THE STAVANGER MEETING
There were no comments to
the Minutes from the Stavanger meeting.
The Minutes were consequently approved.
5. MEMBERSHIP
The Secretary presented
the following changes to the membership
since the last meeting:
Resignations:
· Dr. Juha Kuokkanen,
(Medical), Finland,
· Mrs. S. Swiers
(Industry), The Netherlands,
· Mr. Patric
Bergsman (Union), Sweden
· Mr. Terry Hall (OGP).
New members:
· Dr. Martti
Siimes (Medical), Finland,
· Mr. Jeroen M.
Baars (Industry), The Netherlands,
· Dr. Jacek Kot
(Medical), Poland,
· Mr. Willy
Hulthen (Union), Sweden,
· Mr. Roger O’
Kane (Industry), United Kingdom,
· Mr. Keith
Stevenson (OGP)
The
Secretary also reported the following:
· The enquiry for
membership from Lithuania referred to
during the last meeting have not
resulted in the receipt of an
application for membership to date,
· A number of
members do not respond in any ways to
Call for Meetings and in some few cases
letters are returned marked ”address
unknown“. It is recognised that not all
of the members will be able to
participate in each and every EDTC
meeting, and as long as the individual
members maintain communication thereby
signalling a continuous support this is
entirely acceptable. See also paragraph
7.4 under the Chairman’s report.
6.ACTIONS FROM PREVIOUS
MEETINGS
The following actions
were recorded from previous meetings.
Status of those is as follows:
7. CHAIRMAN’S REPORT
7.1 European
Committee for Hyperbaric Medicine (ECHM)
The Chairman advised that
following discussions between ECHM and
the EDTC Medical subcommittee the
Executive Board have agreed to offer
Observer status membership to ECHM in
order to formally tie common activities
together. The Secretary had consequently
been instructed to write to Dr. Daniel
Mathieu formally inviting the ECHM to
take up Observer membership.
Action: Secretary
7.2 Revision of
Safety Guidelines
The Chairman advised that
as Claus Mayer, as the Chairman of the
Safety Guideline working group cold not
make it to the meeting Staffan Littorin,
a member of the working group would give
a short presentation. See paragraph 9
for further details.
7.3 Members not
attending meetings, nor responding to
communication
As an all voluntary
organisation with very limited means
EDTC relies very heavily on the member’s
willingness to participate in its
activities and donating effort in the
form of their time and resources in
order to progress the committees
business. Unfortunately some members
have not participated in any meeting or
activities for a considerable time and
in some few cases not in any meetings or
activities at all. This situation was
discussed in the Executive Board meeting
the previous day and has also been
addressed and recorded in
meetings/minutes some years back.
The Chairman asked the
meeting to approve the Board suggestion
that the Secretary write to those
members and ask them if they wished to
remain on the list. If no answer was
received after 3 months then they would
be removed from the list. The meeting
agreed this course of action. The
Secretary was as a result requested to
write to those in question (those not
having attended any of the last 3
meetings or submitted an apology for not
being able to attend) inviting them to
reconfirm their intensions to
participate in EDTC activities,
alternatively resign from their position
in order to allow alternated
representatives to participate.
Olav Hauso commented that
the national Authority Representative
should have an active hand in this
process encouraging appropriate
representation from each country.
Action:
Secretary
7.4 EDTC
Conference 2008
Members will remember
that a committee was appointed at the
Stavanger meeting to work out a plan for
conducting an EDTC conference in
2008/2009 along the same lines as the
Luxemburg meeting in the early 90’ties.
The plan was to develope
our relationship with Mrs Angelilli,
through the Italian delegation, however
when contacted for support we were
advised that as there is EU elections
scheduled for early 2009 such a
conference would have to be held no
later that in December 2008. As this was
clearly unachievable it was decided by
the Executive Board to delay this
activity to sometime in 2010.
The Secretary was
requested and accepted to head up a
small working group to into the proposed
conference, how it could be run and its
content. During the members meeting the
following additional members volunteered
to assist:
Jørn Ryberg (Sweden),
Roger O’ Kane (United Kingdom), Giovanni
Esentato (Italy). Jurg Wendling also
offered his assistance in any medical
issues.
7.5 EU Directive
on the free movement of personnel –
Recognition of EDTC under the 2005 EU
Directive
As the members will
remember EDTC approach to obtain
recognition under the 2005 EU Directive
was extensively discussed during the
Stavanger meeting and the Secretary had
been instructed to write a letter to the
EU Commission addressed to Mrs.
Angelilli seeking such recognition.
However, some members were of the
opinion that such an approach cold not
be entertained by EU and a meeting was
thus arranged at the United Kingdom
Health and Safety Executive’s offices in
London hosted by Chris Sherman. It was
concluded during the meeting that the
Directive is set up for countries
organised and controlled by a central
authority. This is however not the case
in all member states as some are
organised by national regions (such as
Spain, Italy and Germany). It is
therefore unlikely that an application
to the EU Commission is going to give
any result and the only way to influence
national authorities is to work through
the members Government Representatives
getting them to lobby the Commission for
recognition of EDTC. If some 6 to 8
countries coordinated such a promotion
of the EDTC then there would be a chance
to achieve recognition.
Another approach as to
how to be recognised and be invited to
participate in relevant activities was
described by Pasquale Longobardi whereby
his team had been invited to participate
in a ”Task Force“ under the guidance of
CEN and the Italian Standards Institute
organisations.
8. REPORT FROM THE
CHAIRMAN OF THE MEDICAL COMMITTEE
Dr. Jurg Wendling
reported:
The effort of producing a
common medical training standard for
diving and hyperbaric medical doctors
has been rewarded in many ways by:
· Recognition by
international organisations,
· Application of
the standards for training courses in
Australia and South Africa,
· IMCA using the
standards as a basis for recognition of
diving medical advisors worldwide,
· DMAC/EDTCmed
audit of courses being more and more
requested,
· UHMS award for
the Chairmen of the joint medical
subcommittee of EDTC/ECHM.
On the other side, the
main goal, namely implementation in the
national authorities and regulations has
not been achieved up to now. No national
regulation accepts EDTC standard for
accreditation of diving medical advisors
or approved medical examiners of divers
in the regulations. However, 5 countries
have established training courses
according to the standards on a regular
basis, 5 nations have training programs
which are longer and more complex,
including the EDTC standards modules,
another 5 countries have no
implementation or any kind of
introductory courses or navy courses not
equivalent to the standards.
The long
term goal to revise and adapt the
standards considering practical
experience and inconsistencies of the
member nations risks failing right now.
The reason is that cooperation with our
partners is actually refused by ECHM:
Lille 04:
Unilateral development of a new project
by an ECHM group introducing academic
formulas, credits, subdivisions and
additional prerequisites.
Barcelona 06: EDTCmed
meeting with ECHM delegation, developing
a new pathway considering the new
proposals seriously.
Sharm-el-Sheik 07:
EDTCmed meeting with ECHM delegation:
trial of a remodelling of the standards
97, including the revision proposals of
ECHM (COST) and EDTC, welcome by ECHM
which nominates a delegate for further
editing of a revised standards version.
EDTCmed
meeting in Graz with delegation of ECHM
4.9.08: In spite of the accepted roadmap
one year ago demonstration of dissent
concerning almost everything already
arranged, no separate modules anymore,
increase of the volume to 200% of hours,
changing naming of the modules and
certificates. Negotiation became
difficult, as our partners change the
face every time we meet, so that a clear
line is almost not possible and after 4
years we have almost no progress.
However, the final discussion was rather
positive, semantical problems being
probably easily resolvable, as well as a
remodelling of the modules where there
seems to be a consensus close to be
accepted, the volume of the volumes will
have to be discussed and changes as
justified by the practical needs to be
accepted. The way to a result will
however only be possible if we can
establish a close communication between
the two partner groups and where the
position of each group are reliable and
will not change from year to year.
Unfortunately, two days after our
meeting, the President of ECHM stated to
their members of the general meeting
that there is no common basis for a
revision of the standards, as ECHM has
clearly adopted the Lille 04 draft as
their unilateral new standard. So, the
only offer to EDTC would be to take that
or leave that.
Consequences for EDTC: Before we go on
and invest more time and efforts, we
have to answer a few questions:
1)
In view of the power-play of the ECHM
President (it seems to be principally
his own opinion) should we go separate
ways or should we swallow the ECHM fish?
2) We have to
clarify our task, what is the goal?
Mutual recognition of diving medicals,
medical certifications and national
registration boards legislations.
3) What is
realistic? We have to consider, what we
can achieve in the next 10 years (formal
steps, role of the EDTC members in their
home countries, national coordinators,
international groups).
Personally, I regret that we are in a
situation of loss of respect of our
partners, as a common program would have
enormous advantages, in particular
because of the practical and financial
difficulties encountered when organising
a training course. It's up to the EDTC
members to discuss and show us the way
to the next step.
It was
pointed out by the Secretary acting on
behalf of offshore contractors that
cooperation with ECHM was of no use to
the offshore community as the offshore
community uses standard issued by IMCA
and DMAC both of whom are recognised by
national authorities not only in Europe,
but also in other countries world wide.
Dr. Kot stated that the
2004 update were actually based on the
mutually agreed 1997 standards, but with
an increase in the number of training
hours. He also pointed out that neither
EDTC nor ECHM were widely recognised
organisations and that continued
cooperation would benefit both
organisations.
Consequently Dr. Kot and Dr Wendling
were requested by the meeting to seek a
solution acceptable to both parties for
continuous cooperation on promoting
mutually agreed common standards.
Action: Dr. Kot/Dr. Wendling
9. REPORT FROM THE
CHAIRMAN OF THE SAFETY WORKING COMMITTEE
In the
absence of the committee Chairman Claus
Mayer, Staffan Littorin reported that
copies of legislation have now been
received from 13 countries. There are
considerable differences between the
legislation, in particularly on the
notice required prior to starting diving
operations.
The working group are now
in the process of trying to making up a
compliance table of the
legislation/standards received with the
aim of publishing these in time for the
next meeting.
Comments by the
Secretary: Once this work has been
completed applicable section of the EDTC
webpage will be updated and the listing
of legislation updated.
10. NATIONAL REPORTS
10.1
Poland (Jacek Kot)
Jacek Kot reported that
there is currently 10 companies
conduction underwater operation sin
Poland. The number of professional
divers is estimated to be around 2000.
National regulation
concerning health and safety was
established in 1965 and medical
assessment standard in 1971. The former
only covers use of compressed air to 60
meters and use of hard hat system.
The individual diving
contractor could thus choose the
decompression to be used. The list of
choices included Polish, Russian or US
Navy tables.
In 2003 a new act on
commercial underwater work was
introduced resulting of the publishing
on ”Regulation on Occupational Health
for Underwater Work“ in 2007.
Health assessment is
mostly conducted in accordance with the
EDTC Standards and training of Diving
Medical specialist in accordance with
the joint ECHM/EDTC standards.
Poland has established a
Centre for Hyperbaric Medicine in
Gdynia. The centre is fitted out with
ICU & HBO chamber for treatment of
gangrene and 2 HBO chambers for
treatment of ambulatory patients. There
is also a saturation system certified
for operations to 200 meters. This
chamber may also be used for treatments,
including intensive care, and research.
There are also facilities for surgical
procedures available.
A full copy of Dr. Kot’s
presentation has been appended to this
minute.
10.2 Turkey (Akin
Toklu)
Akin Toklu reported that
Turkey is preparing changes to the
Turkish legislation incorporating EDTC
standards.
He also advised that
Hyperbaric Medicine is classified as a
medical speciality in Turkey requiring 4
years training/experience.
Turkey has now
implemented a standard form for medical
examination of divers.
10.3
IMCA (Jane Bugler)
Jane Bugler reported that
the following codes had been issued or
updated:
· IMCA D014 (Rev
1): IMCA International Code of Practice
for Offshore Diving,
· IMCA D 042:
Diver-based concrete mattress handling,
deployment, installation, repositioning
and decommissioning,
· IMCA D 043:
Marking and colour coding of gas
cylinders, quads and banks for diving
application,
· IMCA D 028 (Rev
1): Guidance for the use of chain level
hoist in the offshore subsea
environment,
· IMCA D 010 (Rev
3): Diving operations from vessels
operating in dynamically positioned
mode.
There is also work in
progress to revise current IMCA
guidelines, as follows:
· AODC 035: Safe
Use of Electricity Underwater,
· AODC 049: Code
of Practice for High Pressure Water
Jetting,
· AODC 055:
Protection of Water Intake Point for
Diver Safety,
· IMCA D011: The
DESIGN suite of documents,
· MCA D 022:
Diving Supervisors Manual.
The
following new guidance documents are
being prepared:
· Isolation and
Barriers of Safe Diving Intervention,
· Guidance on
Hyperbaric Evacuation Systems.
Finally
Jane Bugler reminded the members about
the annual IMCA Marine & Diving Seminar
which this year will be held in Kuala
Lumpur on November 5th and 6th. 2008.
10.4 United Kingdom
(Chris Sherman)
Chris Sherman reported
that activities continue to be high in
UK sector and that a range of new Diving
Support Vessels (DSV’s) were being
introduced. This has resulted in a lack
of personnel in spite of turning out
600+ divers in 2007 and 300+ to-date in
2008. In addition to those UK based
personnel in excess of 200 overseas
candidates have been issued UK
certificates both in 2006 and 2007.
He also reported that
there have been no fatalities the last
year, but an increase in major accidents
while the over 3 days away from work
statistics have remained steady.
The UK Health and Safety
Department is currently engaged in 3 R &
D projects, namely.
· Helmet noise
reduction,
· Differential
pressure hazards, and
· Helmet
Protection Testing.
He then
reported on resent incident all
associated with non oil and gas
activities.
A copy of the full
presentation has been attached to this
minute.
10.5 IDRF (David
Parkes)
David Parkes reported
from the IDRF meeting held in London the
preceding week. The objective of the
IDRF is to share information and
standards, particularly on diving
training with the aim of mutual
recognition. Such training must be based
on government approved and controlled
certification standards.
The IDRF is somewhat
concerned that the oil industry client
group OGP is going on their own with new
international standards.
The IDRF will make up
comparisons of standards in order to
identify differences.
IDRF expressed some
concern with the fact that due to a
shortage of offshore personnel many
experienced instructors were now being
tempted away from the training schools
and was looking at possible schemes were
Trainee Supervisors could be used to man
the panels together with an experiences
supervisor thus keeping a high training
standard while also allowing Trainee
Supervisor to obtain necessary panel
time.
10.6 Italy (Enrico
Buffa)
Italian diving
contractors have participated in of oil
and gas activities from the very
beginning and were the first to
introduce dynamically positioned DSV in
the early 1970’ies (Copalaonga) as well
as cursors for control of diving bells
(Drass). Italy, as the rest of Europe
have a shortage of offshore (and diving)
personnel and when trying to train new
personnel there is a waiting list of at
least 6 months and limited availability.
The Association of
Italian Diving Contractors (AISI) was
founded in 2000 with the aim of
improving safety standards in commercial
diving. Due to a limited internal
offshore marked in Italy many diving
operations conducted by Italian
contractors are performed abroad. This
has caused some problems, in
particularly with regards to
certification of divers due to a lack of
suitable Italian legislation and control
of diving training standards.
AISI have therefore taken
the following steps in order to rectify
the problem:
· Through UNI
(Italian Standards Organisation) have
developed ”Guidelines for the diving and
hyperbaric activities and for diver
training and qualifications“. These
guidelines are corresponding with the
IMCA and EDTC guidelines & standard and
will be issued by December 2008,
· Through the
Emilia Romagna local Government diver
training standards and qualification has
been published (Regional Official
Gazette, March 2007, No. 335). The local
government will also administrate and
issue diver certification (Professional
training is under regional jurisdiction
in Italy),
· Centro di
Formazione Offshore di Ravenna (CFO) are
already performing diving training in
accordance with the above standard,
· A government
inter-regional committee is taking care
of harmonisation of the regional rules
and AISI is now lobbing this committee
with the aim of having the Emilia
Romagna diver training standard accepted
and used by all Italian regions.
The above will provide
Italian divers with internationally
recognised certificates.
10.7 Norway (Olav
Hauso)
Olav Hauso advised that
Norway is now reverting back to the 1991
regulations for definition of ”Deep
Diving“ which are 180 metres. The same
applies for:
· Times for
saturation period (time at bottom
depth),
· Times for bell
run, and
· Time for ”in
water“ period.
The
following changes to regulations are
proposed:
· Requirements for
100% hyperbaric evacuation capacity on
each side of the DSV. These requirements
will only apply to new vessels.
· In the event of
only one hyperbaric lifeboat,
restrictions will apply (free side for
launching). This will apply for all
DSV’s.
He also advised that
NORSOK U-100 Industry Standard for
Manned Underwater Operations has been
issued as edition 2.
After inactivity in
providing bell diving training
(from1996) bell diving training are
again being conducted at the Bergen
University College, Faculty of
Engineering (formally the Norwegian
State Diving School). The University
College will receive a new saturation
diving system by the autumn 2009,
however, a course have already been
completed where 11 of 12 candidates
successfully completed the course.
The
Norwegian Commercial Diving School (NYD)
located close to Oslo is providing a
range of training courses including
Class 1 course in cooperation with INPP
in Marseille, France. This school
currently conduct in excess of 80% of
the training in Norway and have modern
onshore facilities, including a quay
providing a depth range from 10 to 120
meters!
A copy of Olav
Hauso’s full presentation has been
attached to this report and will explain
the rationale behind the new
requirements being proposed.
11. ELECTIONS
The Chairman advised that
two candidates had been proposed for
election for the two seats on the Board
due for election. The nominees were:
·
Claus Mayer (Germany),
·
Jørn Ryberg (Sweden),
He therefore proposed
that as only two vacancies were
available that the two nominees be
confirmed as elected to the Executive
Board. This was unanimously accepted by
the members.
He also advised that as
previously discussed and confirmed in
the Executive Board the previous day
Claus Mayer had been formally elected
Chairman of EDTC meaning that he was
retiring as of the end of this meeting.
Jane Bugler, on behalf of
the Executive Board and the members
thanked Crawford for his 5 year as
Chairman of EDTC and wished him well in
his retirement.
12.ANY OTHER BUSINESS
12.1 Estonian
Membership
Jørn Ryberg advised that
he had been approached by a
representative from an Estonian diving
contractor enquiring about membership in
the EDTC. It was advised that each
European country was entitled to
membership by 4 representatives
(Government, Medical, Industry and
Union) and that individual memberships
would not be entertained. Members thus
need to be nominated and/or supported by
a national trade organisation or
government authority.
Jørn Ryberg confirmed
that he would convey this message back
to the applicant advising them that a
formal application be forwarded through
the Secretary.
12.2
Website
Akin Toklu suggested that
the EDTC website be updated and given a
more contemporary look. It was also
suggested that additional information
such as Call for Meeting and Minutes of
Meetings be included. He offered to
assist in the process and was invited to
open communication with the Secretary on
the issue.
13. NEXT MEETING
The Danish delegation has
confirmed that they can arrange the next
EDTC meeting in Copenhagen 2009.
Post
meeting information: The Danish
delegation have now confirmed the
meeting for September 25th at the Danish
Maritime Authorities in Copenhagen.
Further information will follow
approximately 2 months before the
meeting.
The Czech
delegation offered to hold the 2010
meeting in Prague. Details for this
meting will be confirmed during the 2009
meeting.
14. ACKNOWLEGMENT
The Chairman thanked AISI
and in particularly Adolfo Magrin and
Giovanni Esentato for arranging the
meeting and for the hospitality offered
to the EDTC members during the stay in
Italy.
Thanks
also go to Pasquale Longobardi and to
his able assistant Mrs. Claudia
Assirelli for assisting in the logistic
and for instant translation service
during the opening address.